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i'm so glad that they put i want a four

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so happy that that's like because part

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of me was because we there was a couple

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other questions you guys asked and

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they're like okay whatever

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but like the fact that you guys put that

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in the tr and it was on your travel

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channel literally me

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full beard in a onesie saying i wanted

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to screw an alien

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um yeah i'm like that's that's amazing

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like that was like the coolest

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thing ever

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[Music]

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this guy is gone viral

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uh we interviewed him for our special on

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travel channel

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storming area 51. we were there he was

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and um this guy's hilarious

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and i'm really glad about the way that

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you've like actually invested

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more time and doing more skits he has

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over 500

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000 followers on instagram and get this

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5.3 million followers on

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tick tock that's not

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and how many on youtube uh i have a

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hundred and sixteen thousand on youtube

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have you been man so it's been a while

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we're just getting out uh

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now online when you guys interviewed me

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last year uh yeah all of this kind of

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so november of december of last year

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people just love you you uh what is the

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thing that you think they

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they um why do they subscribe what do

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uh i think part of it is that like i

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test the boundaries in which a lot of

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uh like one thing that i mean the way i

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with christmas ornaments and glitter and

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stuff for christmas right

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and so uh that's kind of been my brand

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and and take it to the limit that you i

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of what's i guess socially acceptable or

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social like the social norm

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right um another thing uh was the

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like the five minute crafts the the

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clothing hacks

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excuse me and um what i ended up doing

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was taking all of those oh turn this uh

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turn this outfit into like a dress

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uh and i and i did those

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video to see some woman

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you know trying that outfit out and it's

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bearded hairy dude wearing these

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ridiculous outfits that like no one

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would ever in their life

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they're not they're not a oh i'm gonna

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thing uh some of them

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i'll tell you by the way

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a lot of muscle yeah joe we need to do

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what work out we need more muscle

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we're like i'm trying

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i can i can see that it's all about the

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angles though

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you out angle the camera you can make

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we will use that trick yes for sure

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but um we are honored to be the first

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i did that um it was a while ago

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you know how i found out about it i

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found out about it i think last year

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my cousin is a huge fan of yours she

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follows all of your stuff

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and um she said it to me and she's like

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favorite people on tick tock

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see what you're doing and i was like

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social media platforms and in such a

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and films absolutely everything

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everything is content and there are so

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many people that were like you should

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find a niche you should

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just do this or just do that and i was

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like but that gets boring

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you go to someone's page and you okay

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showing me

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how to cook meals or i'm going to this

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person's page because they do funny

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skits

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to do well but they reach a threshold

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and not as many more people follow them

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to an audience that they haven't

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my whole life is content everything a

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story about me going to the grocery

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or a video of me going to the grocery

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and people like seeing that kind of

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stuff and two because

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tag their boyfriends or their husbands

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this when i'm pregnant i don't want it

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a kid i don't want it and that's where a

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i did i was very very terrible in

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relationships before i got married

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to my wife uh before i met my wife and

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took that concept i was like okay

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done i'm gonna do the opposite with my

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filming anything and everything and turn

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like okay one day he's going to post a

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video of you know him and his baby and

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the second this the next day he's going

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you know wearing a dress doing the whap

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dance and you just don't know what

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that are you doing do you have the whap

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was i did the whap dance and then i'm

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and do her part um and and that's and

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so tick-tock is made for you it really

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banger no not every video i post is

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every video to go viral and that's when

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it was scary it gave me a lot of anxiety

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because i went from like growing slowly

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um you have to turn your notifications

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my notifications are off on my instagram

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facebook because it would break your

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and it has almost 30 million views i i

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was looking i was like this is insane

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this is nuts that this did well like

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right that's what's crazy right it's

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it's insane

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and then there's right there in your

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videos got posted everywhere too that's

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how you know the videos what

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uh on facebook uh we're seeing this

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video of me wearing

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it was a it was a a hoodie that i cut

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the bottom of it off and flipped it over

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and it ended up into a crop top hoodie

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with a skirt

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thing and it just

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absolutely looks pretty i got a hairy

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stomach my belly button yeah but the

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muscles help

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the muscles itself the muscles and the

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touches and the tattoos

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it's it's really crazy what what ends up

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doing really well and what doesn't

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most of the time the videos that i put

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very little effort into

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not like zero effort but like just think

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of on the whim like oh my gosh this

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would be a funny video

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and then i post it and then it ends up

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doing really well and like i almost

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didn't even post it

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wow that's so so weird it's like

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in an instantaneous moment you can

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either have millions of views or not

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okay i want to do a tattoo competition

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right now i want to see out of the three

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of us

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because i have some very substantial

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tattoos but you guys show them

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and i want to see who's probably got

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like the best tattoos so

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i think what the [\h__\h] are you doing

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let's start with joe

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what do you want from me i got show us

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your freaking tattoos

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i'm not putting my legs i'll [\h__\h] you

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show us your legs

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i got spider-man and [\h__\h] show us your

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legs

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no bro those are some of your best ones

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are on your freaking calf

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uh i have tattoos everywhere so why do i

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see everyone

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oh whatever um my chest

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aren't they fun you see what that is

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that is freaking awesome yeah i got my

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calves done

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um what else i have oh joe

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did you stay on your butt yeah

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and then that

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nice my favorite is this one that i just

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got though because it looks like

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i like it oh yeah penguin and stuff

329
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it's okay so it's my turn i mean i'm i

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have substantial

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i have this it's just a paw that's all i

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got so i think uh sorry joe but kevin's

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winner here clearly

334
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uh thanks for [\h__\h] up my set emmett

335
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my tattoo artist uh

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tapped out before i did and i just got

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this done the other day

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how do you deal with that i would be

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like it was like eight

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i think i sat for like eight hours for

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this because it's all the way

342
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it's you can see it's all the way on my

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back too

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oh [\h__\h] is that like electric like what

345
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can you describe what that is it's a

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tree so what it is it's a tree

347
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over at my nipple your zipple

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that's what it is oh cool digging that's

349
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that's so awesome i don't know how you

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could do that for eight hours that's

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freaking crazy

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that's actually when i got when i got

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this done um i sat for 11 hours

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so this would break son of a gun to have

355
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that

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but he's uh the next house

357
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yeah that one's that's not bad right

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there the next session that i'm doing

359
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he's gonna do

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the rest of the branches all up through

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my neck

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and then all through here and then

363
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there's going to be like clouds and

364
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stuff because so it's going to look like

365
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the trees going through the chest piece

366
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up towards like this one right here

367
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oh nice and then you don't even need to

368
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wear a shirt

369
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that's the plan that's a good plan

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yeah so i'll have i'll have from here

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done

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on the 29th uh of october sweet

373
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and then in november he's gonna start

374
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this sleeve and then my

375
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back piece begins in january so you're

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getting

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uh full crazy yeah i'm gonna have full

378
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sleeves for i want to get my whole body

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tattooed mostly

380
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so yeah except my face i was thinking

381
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about maybe

382
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maybe doing something up here but i'm

383
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not sure i want to solidify my social

384
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media career first so that way

385
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in case something happens i don't have

386
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to like go back to work with a face

387
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tattoo

388
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more widely

389
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it's a good idea but that's what i would

390
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do

391
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let's talk about aliens and [\h__\h] real

392
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quick right you know this is fun

393
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real quick real quick yeah right i know

394
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you go for hours why'd you go to what

395
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what what took you to area

396
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it wasn't just the cloud alien cheeks i

397
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know it wasn't just a clap alien cheeks

398
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okay so what ha

399
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so much like um much like how i am on

400
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like the

401
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the tick tock and everything um if

402
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something crazy is happening i want to

403
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be a part of it uh

404
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all the time and the storm area 51 event

405
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i was like we

406
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i was my i was doing construction

407
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full-time last year

408
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and uh we were doing really well and i

409
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was like well screw it i mean we have

410
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some money why don't we just go ahead

411
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and go because my buddy had posted on

412
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facebook

413
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because his birthday was yesterday one

414
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of the guys that was there with me the

415
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one who

416
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had a really hard time talking during

417
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the interview um

418
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he was there when uh he had posted on

419
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facebook

420
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jokingly about wanting to go because the

421
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day of the event was his birthday

422
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and uh and i was like yo it's tickets to

423
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vegas or like 120 bucks like why don't

424
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we just go ahead and do that

425
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and he thought i was joking i was like

426
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no i'm dead serious like i will pay for

427
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the tickets right now like i will set

428
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everything up get an airbnb we'll have

429
00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:00,320
the whole thing set up

430
00:15:03,670 --> 00:15:03,279
right now and uh and he's like he's like

431
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all right

432
00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:06,720
screw it let's go and so um so we did we

433
00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:08,639
just we bought the tickets and we stayed

434
00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:09,839
in vegas for i think it was like three

435
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days three or four days

436
00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:13,920
and went out there and uh i mean we

437
00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:15,040
wanted to see what the whole thing was

438
00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:15,760
about and then

439
00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:17,920
obviously like we were the onesies and

440
00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:20,480
stuff and like

441
00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:22,000
like that's that's like kind of how we

442
00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:23,600
are like when it comes to a lot of

443
00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:25,040
things like we do that

444
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going to like music festivals like

445
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watershed and um

446
00:15:33,430 --> 00:15:31,360
even just going random places we'll just

447
00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:33,440
just go all out i like being the center

448
00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:35,600
of attention and that was like a one

449
00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:39,040
place that i look at me

450
00:15:42,230 --> 00:15:40,959
going somewhere because not a whole lot

451
00:15:43,749 --> 00:15:42,240
of people went because of the whole

452
00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:43,759
thing that happened with maddie roberts

453
00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:45,279
and like the music festival so

454
00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:48,000
right everyone's like oh it was up but

455
00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:48,720
it was still

456
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an event like it was a it was a once i

457
00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:52,240
mean right

458
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probably once in a lifetime event true

459
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absolutely

460
00:16:04,189 --> 00:16:00,000
how old are you by the way i'm 27.

461
00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:04,199
oh how do you think we are

462
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:09,440
32. i'm 37

463
00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:17,509
man i think it's awesome that at 28

464
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you're like

465
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still being able to do all kinds of

466
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awesome stuff

467
00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:24,480
and you just started there you got your

468
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baby and

469
00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:27,120
you know you're able to kind of like

470
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grow that in with your life and kind of

471
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phase in

472
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oh well you're awake hi parrot yeah it's

473
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it's great you're

474
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you're 27 you're starting this out

475
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already exploding out and

476
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you know you're just going to keep

477
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climbing from there you know thankfully

478
00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:41,279
we were

479
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kind of not sure what was going to

480
00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:44,560
happen in the last couple days with the

481
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whole thing with

482
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trump and tick-tock but it looks like

483
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looks like we're in the clear um i bet

484
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and i wouldn't be

485
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like 100 worried about it um i mean the

486
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majority of the

487
00:17:00,710 --> 00:16:59,040
uh the brand deals and like i guess the

488
00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:00,720
income that i make from it

489
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is from tick tock because that's where i

490
00:17:05,669 --> 00:17:04,319
have the most followers but

491
00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:05,679
i mean i would have been we would have

492
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been okay if you lost that

493
00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:10,000
yeah if you lost that platform you would

494
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just all those followers would go to the

495
00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:12,640
other platform you're on and just follow

496
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:14,079
you there anyway so

497
00:17:18,030 --> 00:17:15,839
yeah i mean i thought there's always a

498
00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:18,040
buying thing remember vine

499
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[Music]

500
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that just [\h__\h] disappeared it was like

501
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:23,039
the biggest reason for that

502
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:25,679
is because uh twitter bought vine

503
00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:26,799
obviously

504
00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:29,039
and twitter doesn't know how to do

505
00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:30,480
anything other than twitter

506
00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:32,799
um but yeah they were they weren't

507
00:17:36,549 --> 00:17:34,320
paying creators

508
00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:36,559
um and creators were only making money

509
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:38,960
from doing like the app downloads and

510
00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:40,559
like flappy bird and all that kind of

511
00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:42,640
stuff but uh

512
00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:45,520
the top people on vine the top creators

513
00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:47,360
on vine that were bringing fine millions

514
00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:48,799
and millions of dollars

515
00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:51,440
were like okay we're done and then they

516
00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:52,000
left

517
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:54,080
and no one not as many people were

518
00:17:57,669 --> 00:17:55,520
watching anymore because those creators

519
00:18:00,789 --> 00:17:57,679
won't post weren't posting anymore

520
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:00,799
but tick tock i think i think on on a

521
00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:04,160
on a tick tock is is so much

522
00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:07,600
larger than vine ever was yeah

523
00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:10,080
and the cool thing is like you can do

524
00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:12,559
vine style videos on tik tok as well

525
00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:15,039
and then also is now starting to pay

526
00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:17,280
creators for views

527
00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:19,760
so you're not um you're not in the same

528
00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:21,120
position that you were

529
00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:23,520
when it when it came to vine the money's

530
00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:24,400
not as good

531
00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:27,120
in terms of like i mean i don't know i

532
00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:28,559
would say the money on vine was

533
00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:31,200
astronomical when it was when it was in

534
00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:32,400
its prime

535
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:34,799
um because i mean you're talking people

536
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:35,520
downloading because

537
00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:36,960
you have you ever downloaded the when

538
00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:38,640
you vine was a thing did you download

539
00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:39,360
the games that

540
00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:43,280
which were showing sometimes no

541
00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:45,120
i don't remember so i don't remember

542
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:46,960
they had like the super addicting games

543
00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:49,360
like flappy bird the super simple

544
00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:52,640
games yeah um and you they

545
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:55,919
the creators were getting paid like 50

546
00:19:00,630 --> 00:18:56,880
60 cents

547
00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:00,640
a download and if you have if you wow

548
00:19:06,789 --> 00:19:04,080
you're talking like you know

549
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:06,799
tens of thousands of dollars a day that

550
00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:07,840
people were making

551
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:11,440
just from doing app downloads and stuff

552
00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:14,640
so you go to area 51 it's a huge event

553
00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:18,720
did you get anything out of it um

554
00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:20,320
i mean it's pretty dope showing people

555
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:21,760
the clip of me being interviewed on the

556
00:19:27,669 --> 00:19:23,200
travel channel saying that i wanted to

557
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:30,549
i'm so glad that i said too because in

558
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:32,000
my head when you were asking that

559
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:32,880
question

560
00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:36,320
i was gonna say [\h__\h] and and i was like

561
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:37,840
they're not gonna they're not gonna post

562
00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:39,600
they're not gonna show that if

563
00:19:42,789 --> 00:19:41,280
if it's if i say that so i said

564
00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:42,799
fornicate and

565
00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:45,840
uh it's funny because um every now and

566
00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:47,280
again someone will like

567
00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:48,960
before i posted about it saying like

568
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:50,240
yeah i was there because not a lot of

569
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:52,080
people saw the main video that i posted

570
00:19:54,470 --> 00:19:52,400
like

571
00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:54,480
when it happened but people would be

572
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:56,000
like were you that you look a lot like

573
00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:57,360
the guy that got interviewed on the

574
00:20:02,149 --> 00:19:58,720
travel channel so that you wanted to

575
00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:02,159
fornicate with an alien i'm like ah crap

576
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:04,559
um it was a super cool experience i mean

577
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:05,760
like the people that we went with

578
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:07,039
they're our best friends i mean they

579
00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:08,640
just had their baby in january

580
00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:11,200
and she was pregnant my my buddy's wife

581
00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:12,320
was pregnant

582
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:16,720
when we went down there um so i mean

583
00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:18,240
i would say just the experience in

584
00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:19,919
general is what i got from it it was one

585
00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:21,919
of the coolest things that we had done

586
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:25,600
um last year and uh

587
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:27,360
the fact that you know obviously we kind

588
00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:28,799
of bought the travel channel for it

589
00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:29,200
ended up

590
00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:32,080
being pretty cool yeah that's uh i just

591
00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:33,840
wish that me and emmett got to enjoy it

592
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:34,960
more we got there

593
00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:38,000
in film film film film film go go go and

594
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:38,960
we were like yeah

595
00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:41,760
in and out we get a chance to see here

596
00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:42,960
talk to anybody hardly

597
00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:44,400
actually i think we experienced it

598
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,000
better than anybody could because we got

599
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:48,559
to get in places and talk to people

600
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:50,240
but yeah we didn't get a chance to go

601
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,640
out and see the people yeah

602
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:54,880
yeah we need to go out and you know i

603
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,000
wish we could have got to

604
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:58,159
the gates that's the only regret i have

605
00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:00,159
is the gates on that night

606
00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:02,559
oh on the mate on the first on the night

607
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,440
yeah

608
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:05,200
basically the i was trying to get the

609
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,720
crew to go but everybody was just

610
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:08,720
absolutely worn out because the crew too

611
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,159
they were like

612
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,919
going and going and then you know they

613
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,679
get there before us

614
00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:15,840
it's like they are the real people that

615
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:18,240
like you know yeah

616
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:21,360
oh yeah oh yeah it's a i i never

617
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:22,480
realized it

618
00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:24,880
because when you're when i have because

619
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:26,559
like when i do like youtube videos and

620
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:28,799
stuff like i'll film a lot of it but

621
00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:32,400
it's so much work to be

622
00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:34,480
the cinematographer when it comes to

623
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:36,080
anything because you're in charge of

624
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,679
making sure the shots look right

625
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,120
if it doesn't look right you have to

626
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,600
redo things

627
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:43,120
and you have to think because like when

628
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,880
you're just like in front of the camera

629
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:46,080
you can just

630
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:47,840
like you guys probably were pretty good

631
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:49,280
at like improv you just

632
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:51,679
you just do you just beat you and you

633
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:52,640
talk and then

634
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:54,799
you know things kind of just happen but

635
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:56,559
i would like to add to that

636
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:57,760
yeah i'm sorry i didn't mean to

637
00:22:02,310 --> 00:21:59,760
interrupt you no

638
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:02,320
um me and emma's performance doing that

639
00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:03,440
it was actually

640
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:05,919
toned down a lot they didn't want us to

641
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:07,360
actually

642
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:11,039
end product yeah we tried our best to

643
00:22:14,549 --> 00:22:12,880
keep it within the limits but we i was

644
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:14,559
like i could have went with that you

645
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:16,240
know but i couldn't

646
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:18,480
keep it down keep that down i thought

647
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:19,760
they did a great job of actually

648
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,000
portraying how silly you were

649
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,240
yeah i know but everybody says even even

650
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:26,400
on the podcast saying oh yeah you were

651
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:29,679
joe though joe and i'm like i know

652
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,310
no i get what you're saying when it

653
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,080
comes to that though because like

654
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,240
you go and do when you go and do things

655
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:42,000
just to do them

656
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:45,520
they're a lot more fun than when you're

657
00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:48,799
when you're thinking about having to

658
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,520
film it

659
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:51,520
or having to put on not necessarily put

660
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:52,880
on a performance

661
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:54,640
because i mean when it comes to certain

662
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:56,000
things you can just kind of like like

663
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:57,919
you were saying you had to tone it down

664
00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,799
which is some some you have to take some

665
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:02,159
amount of effort

666
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,960
but you have to have a stage presence

667
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,400
especially when you're on camera

668
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:08,480
you can't just you have to like remember

669
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:10,080
that you're on camera and like

670
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,960
do things in that way but yeah it takes

671
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:14,400
it takes away from the experience a

672
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:15,919
little bit

673
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:18,880
i think too we were we filmed so much

674
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,039
and joe and i are always on

675
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:23,280
and they had so much to pick from the

676
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,640
other thing too is

677
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,559
as we were actually shooting and

678
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:28,000
traveling they were editing at the same

679
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:29,600
i mean like simultaneously they had like

680
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:31,200
a whole room of editors they were trying

681
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:33,039
to get it all together and

682
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:35,919
they took the cards off yeah it was

683
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,320
quick

684
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,799
it was great it was fun uh we're i can't

685
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:40,640
wait to do more as soon as this crap

686
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,200
stops

687
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:43,760
yeah yeah it's awful what do you think

688
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:44,880
about down the

689
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:46,240
any recent ufo news have you been

690
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:48,400
keeping up with any of that stuff any

691
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:51,520
uh what like any of the recent ufo news

692
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:52,159
like

693
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:53,760
there was that what was it that one in

694
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:55,760
mexico right that just happened

695
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:59,039
was it mexico the the

696
00:24:02,230 --> 00:24:00,720
lights that people were seeing just like

697
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:02,240
a week or so ago right

698
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:05,200
new jersey yeah and then that cia

699
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:05,919
footage

700
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:08,080
that came out they didn't call it a ufo

701
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:09,679
they called it whatever

702
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:11,279
um but yeah i've been following a little

703
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:14,080
bit uh i've been following a little bit

704
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:15,919
i still believe the same that i did back

705
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:17,600
then like it's ignorant to think that

706
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,000
we're the

707
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:20,000
only ones that are out here and they're

708
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,360
talking about like they just found what

709
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,360
was it a resemblance of life on

710
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:25,279
on jupiter the rings of jupiter or

711
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:26,799
something like that venus

712
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:30,400
or venus yeah yeah they found the

713
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:32,640
signs of life and venus and there's no

714
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:33,440
other i guess

715
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,559
scientific explanation as to why um

716
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:38,240
phosphine would be in the clouds of

717
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:40,400
venus other than a byproduct of life

718
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:43,120
it's a pretty amazing sort of revelation

719
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:44,400
i think

720
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:49,039
the first thing is they're going to say

721
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:50,559
oh we have biological life

722
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:53,520
or sorry uh you know microbes microbial

723
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:54,240
life

724
00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:57,279
and then uh which is like kind of what

725
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:58,159
they're doing now

726
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:00,559
it's signs we're having signs of life

727
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:02,240
signs of life signs of life and

728
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:04,000
at some point i really do think that

729
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,080
they're just going to say we found life

730
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:08,159
yeah i think they already know i just

731
00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:09,440
think they're trying to

732
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:11,919
i think they do too because like here's

733
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:14,080
here i was just watching something i was

734
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:14,720
watching the

735
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:18,640
um the uh the documentary on netflix

736
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:20,240
about the challenger

737
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,720
yeah i was watching it too so what i was

738
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,640
thinking about is so that was 1980s

739
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:26,880
right we made it to the moon

740
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,320
uh with computers that like our phones

741
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,320
have more powerful computers than what

742
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:34,080
they were using to put us on the moon

743
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:34,799
right

744
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:37,039
yeah by the magnitude of like thousands

745
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:38,720
and the shuttle program and stuff like

746
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:40,799
how they had that whole thing like

747
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,400
they had the technology think about the

748
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:44,400
technology that they had

749
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:47,520
in the 80s the 60s the 70s

750
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:50,240
and where we are now technologically as

751
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:51,039
a society

752
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,400
i think there's so much that they know

753
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:58,159
they're not they're not telling us

754
00:26:02,710 --> 00:25:59,919
because what's that um what's

755
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:02,720
it was from uh back to the future if you

756
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:05,200
watch the back of the future movies

757
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:08,159
yeah okay so remember remember when he

758
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:09,440
played the guitar

759
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:11,120
like the it was like jimi hendrix or

760
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:12,480
something like that he was playing in

761
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:13,679
front of johnny be good

762
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,279
they they were like i don't understa

763
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:17,360
this doesn't compute like it didn't

764
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:18,720
because they weren't

765
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:20,240
that's not something they had ever heard

766
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:22,880
before so their brain couldn't recognize

767
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:24,000
it as something that they wanted

768
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:26,880
to hear that sounded good or or or even

769
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:28,720
recognize it as music

770
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:31,919
i think as a society uh the vast

771
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:33,039
majority of people

772
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:35,440
if they came out tomorrow and said

773
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,279
actually yes there's aliens

774
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:39,360
here's this here's that there's life

775
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:40,640
here there's life there

776
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:43,360
this is all the stuff that we found as a

777
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,200
i mean in 2020 i think we would just be

778
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:47,279
like oh yeah okay that makes sense but

779
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:49,279
like yeah for the most part most people

780
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:50,400
would be like much

781
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:53,600
be like they wouldn't be able to process

782
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:54,480
it

783
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,240
our brains wouldn't be able to process

784
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:57,600
the type of stuff that

785
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,480
is probably you know readily available

786
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:02,080
information for the people that

787
00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:04,720
are allowed to know about it it's

788
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:06,159
interesting you say that just to kind of

789
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,440
add on i think i

790
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,520
um what you're talking about like what

791
00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:11,039
you can't see what you can't see like

792
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,320
your brain can't process

793
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:14,799
yeah i know that the ships that came

794
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:15,520
over

795
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:16,960
like you know when columbus was coming

796
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:19,600
to america the native americans

797
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:22,960
they didn't even see them yeah yeah it's

798
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:23,840
a paradigm

799
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:27,200
because they didn't even know that ships

800
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,399
and that sort of

801
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,720
thing of that size it's just like they

802
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:32,240
didn't even see it

803
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:33,440
because their brain couldn't understand

804
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,640
is that kind of what you're talking

805
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,559
about exactly yeah so because and they

806
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,399
didn't recognize they didn't see them

807
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:40,320
until they got into the boats the

808
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:42,080
smaller boats because of the canoes

809
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,360
they're like oh okay

810
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,799
yeah it's like a paradigm shift you

811
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,399
don't you don't

812
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:49,440
your brain can't comprehend it so so it

813
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:50,960
just doesn't exist

814
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:52,880
but once you're once i don't know i

815
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:55,039
think there is a process of evolution

816
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:56,640
that we need to get to

817
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:58,799
to the point where like our brains will

818
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,279
be able to recognize that stuff

819
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:03,200
um and it's definitely more so now

820
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,200
because we have so much like

821
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,679
technology like sci-fi movies and all

822
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,039
this kind of stuff

823
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,360
but i think i think whatever life there

824
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,960
is out there is not going to look it's

825
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:14,240
they're either going to look exactly

826
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:16,080
like us

827
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,000
why we don't you know we don't know

828
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:23,200
or they look so far out of the realm of

829
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:24,080
what our

830
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,520
comprehension totally that they're

831
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:27,440
probably here and we just don't see them

832
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:28,000
or

833
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,600
in like

834
00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:34,000
the 50s i'm sure they knew in the 50s so

835
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,360
when i buy they i mean

836
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,360
that was my parrot she's stretching but

837
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:39,200
by they in the 50s i mean you know

838
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:43,120
the the scientists let's say that were

839
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:46,399
plucked from their universities to uh

840
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:49,360
maybe analyze a body that had crashed or

841
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:52,720
a device that had crashed

842
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:54,480
and i couldn't imagine what they would

843
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,480
think because you know

844
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:58,640
christian christian jesus you know it

845
00:29:02,149 --> 00:28:59,600
was church church

846
00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:02,159
that was the known understanding of

847
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:02,720
anything

848
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:06,480
sort of it was semi-accepted uh that was

849
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:09,679
um spiritual and then they

850
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:12,159
come across these undescribable bodies

851
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,120
and technologies

852
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,720
of course i think back then they'd freak

853
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,279
out i think you're right though in 2020

854
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,919
when i speak with people and i say what

855
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:21,840
do you think about the news on venus or

856
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,960
what do you think about the videos that

857
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:24,880
were released by the

858
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:29,120
department of defense and and they go

859
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:32,320
oh yeah that's awesome and i go well

860
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:38,470
totally makes sense to me that's

861
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:40,640
basically what they say like

862
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,240
or they say no surprise to me

863
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:46,559
i totally believe it and then that's

864
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:47,360
that

865
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,520
know a couple decades ago

866
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,279
you know people like no no no no they

867
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:55,200
send you loony bin to get

868
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,320
lobotomized absolutely

869
00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:00,880
are you watching ratchet i haven't we

870
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:02,480
haven't started watching that yet with a

871
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:03,679
nurse right

872
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:05,760
so great we haven't started lobotomies

873
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:06,720
in there

874
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,720
we just finished i just watched that the

875
00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:10,480
devil uh

876
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:12,399
the devil inside or what is it called oh

877
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:14,640
yeah tom holland with tom holland yeah

878
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:18,159
that movie was was it was trippy like it

879
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:19,360
you're watching it you're like what the

880
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:22,000
have you seen it yet no i was saving

881
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,760
it too you got to watch it i won't i

882
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:25,120
won't go into it because you eat stuff

883
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:27,039
definitely a good watch

884
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:30,240
definitely watch ratchet it's so great i

885
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:32,559
loved it challenger series is great also

886
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:34,880
watch have you watched race by wolves

887
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,279
uh actually yeah i have started on on

888
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:38,880
hbo

889
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:41,279
dude i know and then what's even going

890
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,000
on

891
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:45,600
episode three or something like that

892
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:47,600
but i i started watching it because i

893
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,880
love travis fimmel

894
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:51,039
i think he is i love i loved him in

895
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:52,880
vikings and i knew he was in that i was

896
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:54,080
like i definitely need

897
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:57,120
this that movie is trippy as

898
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,640
hell like super trippy the first episode

899
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:02,559
i was like what the heck and then

900
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,320
the end of the first episode and it

901
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:06,240
seems like the each episode takes

902
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:07,519
forever

903
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:08,960
it's not it's not like oh my god the

904
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:10,880
episode's over it's like holy crap i

905
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:12,320
still have like half hour left so much

906
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:13,360
has happened

907
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:16,480
and then all of a sudden a bunch it's

908
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,559
crazy it's it's hella good

909
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:21,120
especially the way she kills people yeah

910
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:22,000
like blowed

911
00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:24,000
and then with the eyes like they just

912
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:25,279
yeah that she

913
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:26,880
she has different eyes that makes people

914
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:28,399
look like what

915
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:30,720
i know it's like i'm trying to figure

916
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,000
out is this

917
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:34,000
i'm like is this like a mirror to

918
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,919
religion or like because there's that

919
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:38,080
cam campion kid and then there's the

920
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:39,760
blonde haired kid what's his name

921
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:42,720
um i forget but i feel like there's like

922
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,320
some kind of like

923
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:46,799
you know jesus devil something there's

924
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:47,519
kind of

925
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:50,480
the chosen sort of religious aspect to

926
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,799
it

927
00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:53,200
i mean yeah there's something yeah

928
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:54,799
because like that was like

929
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:57,360
that was the whole thing of like are you

930
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:59,200
a believer or not believer

931
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,480
like so obviously there's the big

932
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:02,159
religious aspect of it but i think

933
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:04,000
you're right i think there's definitely

934
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:07,360
like okay what is like like

935
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,720
the devil and and uh yeah the higher

936
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,399
power that they have soul

937
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:14,000
yeah the soul so there's definitely

938
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:15,679
something there

939
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:17,919
it's interesting because i never i

940
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,799
didn't start

941
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,640
i'd seen commercials for it or something

942
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,320
like that but the reason i ended up

943
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:24,080
finding it is because i was like i kept

944
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:24,640
seeing

945
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:28,559
uh um commercials for class action park

946
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:30,960
and so i was like oh yeah i have hbo max

947
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:33,039
and the only 10 thing i used hbo for was

948
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:34,240
to watch game of thrones and then once

949
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:35,600
game of thrones ended i was like well i

950
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,279
didn't really use hbo very much anymore

951
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:38,960
and then i saw that i was like all right

952
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:41,519
we'll get hbo again and i've never seen

953
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:42,000
a single

954
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:45,360
episode of unicorns

955
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:48,240
i've tried i've tried watching like the

956
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:49,919
very first season first episode

957
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:51,919
okay well i can't get through a whole

958
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:53,679
episode i've tried parts of like the

959
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:54,640
first three

960
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:56,320
i don't know why i just i can't stick it

961
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:01,350
for game of thrones there's a there's a

962
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:03,039
couple shows like that for me so for

963
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:06,240
uh there was game of thrones um was one

964
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:06,799
of them

965
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:13,679
um sons of anarchy uh the first

966
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:16,480
like three or four episodes like it's

967
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:17,600
because it's a new

968
00:33:23,909 --> 00:33:20,960
show at that time it's a pilot right

969
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:23,919
so the acting is not as good the script

970
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,279
is i mean the script was good

971
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,320
still but like like

972
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:30,240
i knew because because i'll have a hard

973
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:31,760
time getting into certain shows and then

974
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:33,919
after three or four episodes i'm hooked

975
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:36,399
if it's a great show i'll watch it and

976
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:37,519
that's the same thing with game of

977
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:38,880
thrones like i had to

978
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:40,720
not force myself but i had to like

979
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:42,159
actively

980
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:45,440
like you know watch the first couple

981
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,720
episodes

982
00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:48,640
and then and then it just got into like

983
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,480
i just needed to watch all of them

984
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:52,080
cool man this has been a lot of fun i

985
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:53,679
think it's cool just talk about aliens

986
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:54,960
and the stuff you're doing

987
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:58,640
and uh we do want to know though

988
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:01,279
skinny bob what do you think of the

989
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:02,799
skinny bob video

990
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:04,880
i think it's grippy as hell it's

991
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:06,880
definitely it's definitely one of those

992
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:08,159
things

993
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,520
that when you when you watch it you

994
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,800
in the back of your mind you're like

995
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:14,800
well this isn't real and then part of it

996
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:17,040
like

997
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:28,159
you know that there's definitely

998
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,520
obviously something like that

999
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:31,200
out there but you're watching this and

1000
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:33,040
you're like well this isn't real though

1001
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:36,159
because we haven't seen we haven't seen

1002
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:39,119
dude man sorry to interrupt you we think

1003
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:39,599
a light

1004
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:42,720
that's exactly how i try to describe

1005
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:45,599
what i feel and see in that video like

1006
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:46,159
there's

1007
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,079
certain animals i'll come across that

1008
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:50,480
are just really super exotic and weird

1009
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:50,960
and they

1010
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:53,599
they're real animals but you can tell

1011
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:55,919
that you can feel when something's alive

1012
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:58,560
that's and as opposed to no matter how

1013
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:58,960
well

1014
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,000
anybody can animate cgi

1015
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:04,400
i feel like no matter how good it looks

1016
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:07,280
you can always tell oh that's a cgi

1017
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:10,640
lion or that's a cgi but i just don't

1018
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:13,119
get that feeling with that video

1019
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,480
skinny box there's some feel something

1020
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:16,560
alive about it that's what's trippy

1021
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:18,160
yeah and that's the same that's the same

1022
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,000
one that i feel when i watch that

1023
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,920
it's just it's yeah like i said it's

1024
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:23,040
like one of those things that you're

1025
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:24,320
like

1026
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:27,680
that's definitely not real

1027
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,359
but like i believe that that's a

1028
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:31,440
possibility but with that you

1029
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:34,240
were like you can't you can't look at it

1030
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,599
and definitively say one

1031
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:38,000
one way or the other which is what makes

1032
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:39,280
it so

1033
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,960
like in um what's the word it's just

1034
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:44,800
you just can't look away from it you

1035
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,400
just you want to just

1036
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:48,320
try and break it down and see see what

1037
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:49,520
it is but

1038
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:53,359
you can't the muscles and the ligaments

1039
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,160
and the

1040
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:57,040
there's just something about it yeah but

1041
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,240
um

1042
00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,480
yeah we've uh been bringing that back up

1043
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:01,680
because it's kind of making the rounds

1044
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:02,320
again

1045
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:03,839
on social media here and there that

1046
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:06,720
we've seen and and like ufo twitter

1047
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:09,359
and so we had a skeptic take a look at

1048
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:09,839
it

1049
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:13,359
and he was actually like he was pretty

1050
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:14,160
stubbed

1051
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:16,000
yeah yeah we uh we interviewed him and

1052
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,079
he's you know he's totally like

1053
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:20,240
you know if there is no you know x plus

1054
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,240
one whatever and this is what

1055
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:24,000
you know he's like very scientific and

1056
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:25,359
he was like

1057
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:28,640
whoever did this is really good

1058
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:32,240
that's his english accent yeah um and

1059
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:34,000
he it was a little bit stuck by that's

1060
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,440
cool so

1061
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:37,680
i think this is a hidden gem and like i

1062
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,560
was uh

1063
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:40,480
like i've been saying joanna i just want

1064
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:42,560
to know what like what the hell

1065
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,839
if it was made who made it and like

1066
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,760
because a lot of them experience because

1067
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:49,119
there's a lot of times where something

1068
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,240
like that will come out

1069
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:52,000
and then a couple years later a couple

1070
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:53,280
months later someone would be like yep

1071
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:55,680
we made that it was fake

1072
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:57,920
but this is like 10 years old yeah and

1073
00:37:01,589 --> 00:36:58,880
then the

1074
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:01,599
they didn't have the technology like

1075
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,640
that

1076
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:04,960
i mean they did but not to then not to

1077
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:06,960
that extent to be able to see

1078
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:08,960
well the best technology at the time was

1079
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:11,359
like avatar

1080
00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:14,640
that was what you thought yeah yeah

1081
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:17,839
it just if you compared that skinny by

1082
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:19,760
video to avatar

1083
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:21,359
they don't they're not going to feel

1084
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:23,440
both cgi it's just

1085
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,720
i'm just agreeing with you man

1086
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:26,480
absolutely i just it wasn't there i

1087
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:29,440
don't think for somebody to put that

1088
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,280
not even the computers actually now that

1089
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:33,359
i think about it now you could probably

1090
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:34,560
do something like that a little easier

1091
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:36,320
but i still don't think it would fool

1092
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:39,920
people yeah you know thank you so much

1093
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,880
yeah kevin clevenger at iron sanctuary

1094
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:44,400
you got to check him out he is just

1095
00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:45,520
killing it

1096
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:48,480
blowing it up all right yeah you guys

1097
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:49,599
have a good one thanks again for having

1098
00:38:03,920 --> 00:37:50,320
me on

1099
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:03,930
oh yeah thanks man